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Post by Orangey Popsicle on Apr 8, 2021 22:33:47 GMT
I don't know if this has been said before, but when people have smeet characters that were created through pregnancy. I'm fairly certain that all Irkens must be sterile at this point in their history given that they reproduce entirely via cloning. It would also be much more interesting if the smeet characters were created through illegal cloning means if the person didn't want them to be created in a smeetery (Is that a canon or fanon term? I like it either way). Like, an Irken character steals cloning technology for their personal use to create a smeet. JV said Hatchery (and i think hatchery is the funniest term, little alien fuckers? like chickens.) im 100% here for this tbh. gonna go steal some cloning equipment.
Holy fuck, I just remembered that they crack the cloning tubes open like eggs. What if Zim was doing one of those "babysit an egg" projects for a parenting class at Skool and he just, fucking, cracks the eggs open because he thought it was supposed to represent a fetus and why would you babysit something that hasn't been born yet? He's so shocked when he gets an F on the assignment. |
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Post by Vulture on Apr 8, 2021 22:44:33 GMT
JV said Hatchery (and i think hatchery is the funniest term, little alien fuckers? like chickens.) im 100% here for this tbh. gonna go steal some cloning equipment.
Holy fuck, I just remembered that they crack the cloning tubes open like eggs. What if Zim was doing one of those "babysit an egg" projects for a parenting class at Skool and he just, fucking, cracks the eggs open because he thought it was supposed to represent a fetus and why would you babysit something that hasn't been born yet? He's so shocked when he gets an F on the assignment. Poor Zim. XDDDDD |
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Post by Vulture on Apr 8, 2021 22:55:26 GMT
I don't know if this has been said before, but when people have smeet characters that were created through pregnancy. I'm fairly certain that all Irkens must be sterile at this point in their history given that they reproduce entirely via cloning. It would also be much more interesting if the smeet characters were created through illegal cloning means if the person didn't want them to be created in a smeetery (Is that a canon or fanon term? I like it either way). Like, an Irken character steals cloning technology for their personal use to create a smeet. I'm kicking myself for not thinking of having an Illegal Child by stealing cloning equipment. That's honestly the better trope than what I'm working with. You're right, and I salute you. I'll still probably stick with my current plans for Tank (for thematic reasons) and make another OC to explore this concept, because it's so cool. |
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Post by Vulture on Apr 8, 2021 22:56:02 GMT
I don't know if this has been said before, but when people have smeet characters that were created through pregnancy. I'm fairly certain that all Irkens must be sterile at this point in their history given that they reproduce entirely via cloning. It would also be much more interesting if the smeet characters were created through illegal cloning means if the person didn't want them to be created in a smeetery (Is that a canon or fanon term? I like it either way). Like, an Irken character steals cloning technology for their personal use to create a smeet. JV said Hatchery (and i think hatchery is the funniest term, little alien fuckers? like chickens.) im 100% here for this tbh. gonna go steal some cloning equipment.
Irkens are just chickens who choose evuuuullllzzzzz. |
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Post by secretlabz on Apr 8, 2021 23:50:39 GMT
I don't know if this has been said before, but when people have smeet characters that were created through pregnancy. I'm fairly certain that all Irkens must be sterile at this point in their history given that they reproduce entirely via cloning. It would also be much more interesting if the smeet characters were created through illegal cloning means if the person didn't want them to be created in a smeetery (Is that a canon or fanon term? I like it either way). Like, an Irken character steals cloning technology for their personal use to create a smeet. i think the reason behind that particular thing is that a lotttt of said smeetfics are mpreg centric (as it was the Big Thing in m/m slash circles during iz's first heyday) |
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Post by Orangey Popsicle on Apr 9, 2021 0:49:49 GMT
I don't know if this has been said before, but when people have smeet characters that were created through pregnancy. I'm fairly certain that all Irkens must be sterile at this point in their history given that they reproduce entirely via cloning. It would also be much more interesting if the smeet characters were created through illegal cloning means if the person didn't want them to be created in a smeetery (Is that a canon or fanon term? I like it either way). Like, an Irken character steals cloning technology for their personal use to create a smeet. i think the reason behind that particular thing is that a lotttt of said smeetfics are mpreg centric (as it was the Big Thing in m/m slash circles during iz's first heyday) God, I could go on a whole ass rant about mpreg. As a trans man, the idea of men being pregnant in fiction is really fucking cool! I'd love to see the idea of trans men being pregnant be normalized while acknowledging that it doesn't make them any less of a man, but people are so cis centric that they made up a whole fetishy anatomy system for cis men while we're right there. |
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Post by Vulture on Apr 9, 2021 0:54:19 GMT
i think the reason behind that particular thing is that a lotttt of said smeetfics are mpreg centric (as it was the Big Thing in m/m slash circles during iz's first heyday) God, I could go on a whole ass rant about mpreg. As a trans man, the idea of men being pregnant in fiction is really fucking cool! I'd love to see the idea of trans men being pregnant be normalized while acknowledging that it doesn't make them any less of a man, but people are so cis centric that they made up a whole fetishy anatomy system for cis men while we're right there. Yes, this! I really wish people could write pregnacy without ciswashing it! Getting back to transphobia, this problem of fetishizing pregnant trans people also extends to pregnant nonbinary people. |
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Post by Orangey Popsicle on Apr 9, 2021 1:00:52 GMT
God, I could go on a whole ass rant about mpreg. As a trans man, the idea of men being pregnant in fiction is really fucking cool! I'd love to see the idea of trans men being pregnant be normalized while acknowledging that it doesn't make them any less of a man, but people are so cis centric that they made up a whole fetishy anatomy system for cis men while we're right there. Yes, this! I really wish people could write pregnacy without ciswashing it! Getting back to transphobia, this problem of fetishizing pregnant trans people also extends to pregnant nonbinary people. Oh yeah, that too! This is probably obvious, but it's rooted in the idea that we're "not actually" the gender that we say that we are by emphasizing the biological functions specific to AFAB people. The gender identity part just makes us more spicy™ to cis people I guess? |
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Post by secretlabz on Apr 9, 2021 1:04:32 GMT
reverse complaint about canon not fanon im pretty sure jhonen and the other writers characterize the irken empire as spanning multiple galaxies but like... itd be really fucking funny if it were like only a little ways away from the local bubble (that earths sun is in) and earth seems REALLY far just because everything is really close together away from it
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Post by Vulture on Apr 9, 2021 1:07:01 GMT
Yes, this! I really wish people could write pregnacy without ciswashing it! Getting back to transphobia, this problem of fetishizing pregnant trans people also extends to pregnant nonbinary people. Oh yeah, that too! This is probably obvious, but it's rooted in the idea that we're "not actually" the gender that we say that we are by emphasizing the biological functions specific to AFAB people. The gender identity part just makes us more spicy™ to cis people I guess? *weeps in AroAce and looks indistinguishable from a cis woman* |
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Post by Vulture on Apr 9, 2021 1:08:08 GMT
reverse complaint about canon not fanon im pretty sure jhonen and the other writers characterize the irken empire as spanning multiple galaxies but like... itd be really fucking funny if it were like only a little ways away from the local bubble (that earths sun is in) and earth seems REALLY far just because everything is really close together away from it  IZ is not Warhammer 40k, nor should it be, but the logistics of the Irken Empire break my brain. I think Jhonen could come up with some really funny explanations for Irken logistics if he wanted to. |
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Post by secretlabz on Apr 9, 2021 1:16:53 GMT
reverse complaint about canon not fanon im pretty sure jhonen and the other writers characterize the irken empire as spanning multiple galaxies but like... itd be really fucking funny if it were like only a little ways away from the local bubble (that earths sun is in) and earth seems REALLY far just because everything is really close together away from it IZ is not Warhammer 40k, nor should it be, but the logistics of the Irken Empire break my brain. i mean it is supposed to be an imperial state taken to absurd degrees, but if they were going to make it funny the best way to show it is that the empire is like insanely puny compared to how we, the audience, would characterize such a thing. theyre basically kids kicking over sandcastles on the playground compared to hard scifi empires in other media, they have control over like maybe a dozen or more star systems (with IDII attempting to add or completely harvest about 20 more) and thats absurd compared to their "allied" nations who struggle keeping even three star systems from separating into factions |
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Post by Vulture on Apr 9, 2021 1:19:58 GMT
IZ is not Warhammer 40k, nor should it be, but the logistics of the Irken Empire break my brain. i mean it is supposed to be an imperial state taken to absurd degrees, but if they were going to make it funny the best way to show it is that the empire is like insanely puny compared to how we, the audience, would characterize such a thing. theyre basically kids kicking over sandcastles on the playground compared to hard scifi empires in other media, they have control over like maybe a dozen or more star systems (with IDII attempting to add or completely harvest about 20 more) and thats absurd compared to their "allied" nations who struggle keeping even three star systems from separating into factions Empire but painfully silly and horrifying in equal parts. Good analysis! I especially love the sandcastle metaphors. |
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Post by secretlabz on Apr 18, 2021 2:59:26 GMT
things that kind of bug me: irken uniforms all being the same as the invader uniform, both in canon and fanon. whadda hell
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Post by Vulture on Apr 18, 2021 4:26:09 GMT
things that kind of bug me: irken uniforms all being the same as the invader uniform, both in canon and fanon. whadda hell Unfortunately, there's kinda evidence backing it up (Devastis trainees, random Irkens, Shloogorgh's employees, and Invaders all wear the same base uniform)...but that doesn't mean we can't be peeved about it. |
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